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By Rusty Gleer
Association of Mature American Citizens 

How Long Do You Have to Be Married to Qualify for Survivor Social Security Benefits When a Spouse Passes Away?

Why can his daughter collect his benefits, but I cannot? Signed: Frustrated Widow

 

Mary Leipziger

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Dear Rusty: My husband and I were only married 5 years before he passed away from cancer. I am 61 and was told by SS that I don't qualify to receive his survivor benefits because we weren't married long enough, and because I made more money than him when he was alive. I still work fulltime and plan to continue until my full retirement age. Am I able to collect any of his benefits? Why can his daughter collect his benefits, but I cannot? Signed: Frustrated Widow

Dear Frustrated: You were given partially incorrect information by Social Security because you were married long enough to collect a survivor benefit, but there are also other rules which might affect your eligibility:

• You cannot have remarried before age 60 and be currently married.

• You cannot collect full survivor benefits if you exceed Social Security's annual "earnings limit." That you made more money than your husband (and are presumably entitled to a higher personal SS benefit) isn't material, but your earnings from work could be.

If you didn't remarry before age 60 and remain married, and if you don't earn too much money, you are eligible to collect a survivor benefit as your husband's widow. You can even claim your survivor benefit (only) while allowing your personal SS benefit to grow (if desired, up to age 70 when it reaches maximum). So, you may be eligible to collect a survivor benefit from your husband now, but if you're working full time, you may make too much money to be able to collect it at this time.

Social Security has an "earnings test" which applies to those collecting early benefits and which limits how much you can earn before they take benefits away. For 2021, the annual earnings limit is $18,960 and if you earn more than that they will take away benefits equal to $1 for every $2 you are over the limit. That could mean you'll owe them more than you're entitled to in benefits, which would mean no benefits would be paid. Here's an example: Say you make $60,000 per year working full time. If you collect the survivor benefit and because you haven't yet reached your full retirement age (FRA), you'll be subject to the earnings limit of $18,960. At this earnings level you would exceed the limit by about $41,000. Half of that amount would be about $20,500, and SS would require you to repay them that amount from your SS benefits. Depending upon your survivor benefit amount, that could disqualify you from receiving monthly benefits.

As you can see from this example, if you work full time but do not significantly exceed the annual earnings limit, you may be able to collect at least some of your survivor benefits, but I cannot answer that without knowing your annual earnings and approximately what your survivor benefit would be. For clarity, the earnings test no longer applies once you reach your full retirement age.

Regarding your husband's daughter collecting a survivor benefit from him: a surviving minor child of the deceased can collect a survivor benefit until they are 18 (or 19 if still in high school). An adult disabled child who was disabled before age 22, is also eligible to collect a survivor benefit from a deceased parent.

So, let's recap: you were married to your husband long enough to be eligible for a survivor benefit, but you may have significant earnings which disqualify you from receiving those benefits right now. There is no longer an "earnings test" once you reach your FRA (66 years and 10 months), so at your FRA you could collect your full survivor benefit. And you could collect your survivor benefit only first and allow your own personal SS benefit to grow until you are 70 when it would be more than your survivor benefit. At that time, you would switch to your own benefit which would be about 25% more than your FRA benefit amount.

This article is intended for information purposes only and does not represent legal or financial guidance. It presents the opinions and interpretations of the AMAC Foundation's staff, trained and accredited by the National Social Security Association (NSSA). NSSA and the AMAC Foundation and its staff are not affiliated with or endorsed by the Social Security Administration or any other governmental entity. To submit a question, visit our website (amacfoundation.org/programs/social-security-advisory) or email us at [email protected]g.

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Reader Comments(5)

icelandics writes:

My husband and I were married a little over 5 years and divorced. Neither one of us have remarried. I am on SS Disability. He passed a few years ago and I was told I am not entitled to his benefits because we were not married long enough. Can you help, please?

Ptout writes:

Not true Rainrain. My son turned 19 in February of his senior year and received benefits until his graduation. As long as they are actively in high school or similar, they are eligible.

RainRain writes:

Benefits for a child due to death of a parent stop at age 18, no matter if they are in school or not.

Deni writes:

What happens if the wife gets 363.00 from her ss if her husband dies can she get his and hers?

5789 writes:

I thought you had to married 15years are longer I was married to my ex husband for 21years .So why can’t I draw his.He is remarried and his wife gets it.Three years.Something not right here

 
 
 

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